First Things First: IA and CSS

With apologies for the delay, here are links to the presentation Christina Wodtke and I delivered at the webvisions 2004 conference this past Friday in Portland, Oregon.

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There has already been some feedback, including a wonderfully thorough recap over at epersonae.com, and some glowing words -- posted immediately after the conference -- from vanderwal.net.

This flat out rocks as it echos what I have been doing and refining for the last three years or more... This process makes things very easy to draft in simple wireframe... This practice has cut down development and design time in more than half and greatly decreases maintenance time. One of the best attributes is the decreased documentation time as using the Web Developer Extension toolbar in Firefox exposes the class and id attributes that provide semantic structure... I can not think of how or why we ever did anything differently.

Overall, I was very pleased with the talk, and with the reception is received. Some people did give some constructive criticism though, but that's always nice to get too.

Thanks to everybody who came and listened to me, and those that asked questions or found me for a conversation later. Thanks also to our wonderul hosts, who put on an excellent conference -- I'm looking forward to next year. And finally, to Christina again for dragging me out.

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Comments

I'm trying the PowerPoint file (which Google has not HTMLified) and I find it has many code samples and screenshots intermingled with the slides. Booboo? BTW, your preview font colours are dark green on lighter green.

Posted by: Joe Clark | Jul 25, 2004 12:54:20 PM

I think you presentation realy hit the spot. For me being a coder your ideas about how IA should deliver their work realy makes sense. I think that it would make communication between IA and coders a whole lot easier (with common names etc.) and leaves more time to focus on the user experience insted of clearing out misunderstandings. Great work!

Posted by: Espen D | Jul 26, 2004 3:53:55 AM

An IA advocacy page with downloadable content called "final"..."forweb"... "final_optimized"?! ...edN

Posted by: ed nixon | Jul 26, 2004 5:32:21 AM

It's a shame that I couldn't read the HTML version. I tried to escape the frame by selecting "Maximize" with Opera's context menu, but it would always go back to the framed version. Whether I viewed your page with CSS enabled or disabled, I still had a difficult time reading it. With it enabled, much of the text overlaped itself on the 1st slide, making it impossible to read. When I disabled the text & tried to read the text in the left frame, I had to scroll left & right just to read it, because I couldn't adjust the frame. I honestly don't understand the significance of making frames unadjustable. I looked @ the images, but they were too small. I pretty much gave up about 1/3 of the way. I don't mean to be negative, but I haven't seen a page like that in ages. That being said, I'm sure that you have a logical explanation for it. I do agree with you on what appears to be your main point: when you are dealing with web pages you are dealing with a database. I honestly wondered why nobody said anything about this. Most people seem to think of it as a presentation. Thanks for your time. -- Sincerely, & with thanks, Eugene T.S. Wong

Posted by: Eugene T.S. Wong | Jul 26, 2004 3:51:44 PM

Thank you for an excellent presentation -- I'm in a team of 1.5 instead of part of a cast of thousands, but the points you made had a lot of resonance for me nonetheless. And I'm glad you liked my notes. (I was the gal typing like a mad freak about 5 rows back.) I'm happy to have them myself, now, as I try to put all of this into practice.

Posted by: Elaine Nelson | Jul 27, 2004 8:05:37 AM

Thanks you two. Good stuff for understanding the engineering of the materials! CD Evans

Posted by: CD Evans | Nov 8, 2004 3:24:21 AM

Really good work. I found a lot of profound information which can help me to go on. Thanks for all this input.

Posted by: Miky Luke | Jan 19, 2005 2:31:19 AM

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